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Thursday, April 24, 2014
More on 2nd Great Grandfather Charles Burns

The following continuation of Charles Burns story I found on FamilyTree written by a GreatGreatGrandson 'Brook'. Their are several story's written about Charles but this one I think is the best short version. I have NOT found a picture of Charles's wife Martha Fretwell but as you see above I have found several pictures of Charles's mother Ellen Hancock.
Charles Burns grew up to become a coal miner. He joined the Church at age eighteen, two years after his mother and stepfather, John Robertson McDuff, had done so. In 1851 at twenty years of age, Charles married Martha Fretwell (b. 9 Mar 1827), also a member of the Church, on 17 November 1851. Her parents were James Fretwell and Mary Cundy, of Brampton near Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Seventeen years later (1868) the Burns’ took their family of five surviving children (Mary Ellen, Joseph, Charles, Sarah Hannah, Martha, and Caroline) to the United States. Martha Burns was the youngest (4 ½) at the time. Charles mother and step-father had already immigrated to America four years previous, eventually settling in North Salt Lake City with their two youngest children. On their journey to America, Charles Burns departed Liverpool June 4, 1868 aboard the packet ship John Bright. The John Bright was a sailing vessel well beyond her prime, operating in an era of increasing steamship travel wherein a transatlantic crossing might take only two weeks compared to six weeks by sail. It had been the Church’s intent that year that most Saints travel by steamship but many members were of limited means and to keep costs down, a few sailing vessels were chartered. The John Bright carried some 722 Saints, the great majority of whom were from the British Isles. Most had been members of the Church for many years—almost twenty years for the Burns’. During the six week crossing there was very little sickness on board and only one death. Nevertheless, from passenger accounts the voyage seems to have encountered at least one life-threatening storm, and early-on the John Bright sustained significant, below-the-waterline damage when accidentally rammed by another ship in the fog. From New York the Burns family travelled aboard the Union Pacific Railroad to its terminus at Laramie, Wyoming, taking less than ten days to get there. Laramie was already 570 miles further west than the earlier wagon train departure point of Omaha, Nebraska. At Laramie the Burns family became part of the John R. Murdock Company, departing by horse-drawn wagon July 27 and arriving in Salt Lake City just three weeks later on August 19, 1868. Within a year the completion of the Transcontinental Railroad would eliminate the need for wagon train travel altogether. After Charles Burns and Martha Fretwell arrived in the Salt Lake Valley, three more children came into the family, yet all died in early childhood. Six years later, twin girls arrived—Ellen and Hannah, named for their father’s mother and her twin sister. But within three years (14 Feb 1877) Martha Fretwell became ill and despite the best of medical care passed away suddenly, just short of fifty years of age. Charles Burns now having seven surviving children, married a widow (Susannah Lord Oliver) with seven children of her own and the couple went on to have two more children—resulting in a very large family indeed. Charles, operating a lime kiln of his own, apparently lived in comfortable circumstances. He was a kind father, requiring strict obedience from his children, yet they loved him dearly. Charles Burns died 11 October 1904 at seventy-two years of age and is buried in the Bountiful, Utah cemetery. His first wife, Martha Fretwell, having predeceased him by twenty-six years, is interred in Salt Lake City. dbh Extract from: Five Generations, D. Brook Harker. Feb 2014. Draft working manuscript, Regina, SK. 287 pp. See F-Tree CB 'Sources' for key references cited.
Next I will post pictures of Charles and Martha's children.
Renée
Wednesday, April 23, 2014
Charles Burns 2nd Great Grandfather; is the reason I did a DNA test.
Charles Burns is my
Great Great Grandfather and he is the reason I wanted to do the DNA test.
The above is part of his life story but, I heard another story and
it is just that 'a story' until it can be proven and I was hoping a DNA test
would be the end all.
My results of my DNA did not 'synch' the story. But, it did not
disprove it either.
The 'story' was told to me by a distant cousin who lives in Canada.
I visited Magrath, Canada in July of 2003. The reason I was in
Canada was for a 'Family Reunion' for Earl's family held in the nearby city of
Cardston. I haven't the time to tell the whole story of how I met up with a
cousin named Elizabeth but, she told why the dark skin. It is said to be
that Charles father is really an East Indian. That Charles's mother Ellen
Hancock Burns was a domestic servant for a Rajah and he is the real father.This makes me chuckle because of course it had to be the Rajah and not just some other Indian servant. It reminds me when people come into the Family History Center wanting to research the linage of American Indian and the story is always, always that the connection is a American Indian Princess. Not just a regular member of the tribe
My DNA test did not give me ethnicity in East India but, it did give a small percentage of results for countries, of West Asia; country's Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria. And Italy and Greece. The jury is still out. It would be good idea if a member of the Burns family would take a DNA test.
I will post more picture soon and continue with more of the story of Charles Burns.
My DNA test did not give me ethnicity in East India but, it did give a small percentage of results for countries, of West Asia; country's Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria. And Italy and Greece. The jury is still out. It would be good idea if a member of the Burns family would take a DNA test.
I will post more picture soon and continue with more of the story of Charles Burns.
Renee
Wednesday, April 16, 2014
DNA stated I am 22% Irish. REALLY?
Last week my DNA results came via email from
Ancestry. com and I was sure they were wrong. It stated I am 22%
Irish .
Really? I put it aside and to give it some
thought.
Then I went to my 'Family Tree' Familysearch.org and
looked into my mother's line. I am not very familiar with the Phippen /Hudson
line . A lot of work has been done on these lines but by who I don't know
and it is not sourced which makes me wonder how correct is the information. Sure enough she has Irish Ancestors. Last name is
LEMMON and the line goes back to !696 in Cork, Ireland. I think my mother thought this
line was English and had no idea she was part Irish.
Now looking at this picture; one
pair of legs is part American Indian and Danish and the other - English-Irish-Scandinavian.
More about my DNA in the next post.
Renee
Saturday, April 12, 2014
Tom has a new car? (12 April 14) This is his car that I remember way back when?
Monday, March 31, 2014
Tuesday, March 25, 2014
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